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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FM Satellite Chirp File (Martin Cooper)
   2. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Zach Metzinger)
   3. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Alan)
   4. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Zach Metzinger)
   5. CHIRP Datafile (Clint Bradford)
   6. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Alan)
   7. Re: FM Satellite Chirp File (John Brier)
   8.  SO-50 carrier frequency shift (Ronald Parsons)
   9. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Jerry Buxton)
  10. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Ted Krempa)
  11. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Ted Krempa)
  12. G5500 control unit switch (73 Bob W7LRD)
  13. Re: AMSAT-NA Malfeasance? (Zach Metzinger)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 12:37:22 -0700
From: Martin Cooper <kd6yam@?????.???>
To: Ev Tupis <w2ev@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite Chirp File
Message-ID:
<CAGEtHiLCPaa=Ribib1JrNOZZgUkCd+xV6jFx4UuVy6ingopkPA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Someone filed a ticket against Chirp for this back in 2017, and attached a
sample stock config file. It has not (yet) been applied, and I'm sure the
sample is outdated by now, but it might be a starting point.

https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/4573

Martin.
KD6YAM

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 8:28 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> Has anyone posted a Chirp file that includes proper parameters for the FM
> voice satellites (assuming that a separate channel pair is programmed to
> compensate for Doppler during passes)?
>
> I'd appreciate being pointed to a link to it, if so.
>
> Ev, W2EV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:50:34 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <c6fb821c-3196-576b-3992-92180561b719@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 07/07/20 10:11, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>   Why do people post items on a HAM RADIO BBS and?NOT use their CALL
LETTERS?? Very rude! Why would?someone make statements and keep themselves
unknown??It could be Spam for all we know!!!? Not signed.de? Bob? K8BL

It is not a requirement to have an amateur radio license to be on
amsat-bb, as far as I know.

http://www.arrl.org/amateur-code

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:07:01 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <001801d6549a$2ddfd970$899f8c50$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Zach,

The AMSAT Acceptable Use Policy, found here:

https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.pd
f

does state that ?All posts should include the author's first name and call
sign, or full name if not currently licensed.?

Of course, failing to do so is not considered a hanging offence.  Hi Hi

73,

Alan
WA4SCA

<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Zach
Metzinger via
<AMSAT-BB
<Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 2:51 PM
<To: amsat-bb@?????.???
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
<
<On 07/07/20 10:11, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB wrote:
<>   Why do people post items on a HAM RADIO BBS and NOT use their CALL
<LETTERS?  Very rude! Why would someone make statements and keep themselves
<unknown? It could be Spam for all we know!!!  Not signed.de  Bob  K8BL
<
<It is not a requirement to have an amateur radio license to be on
<amsat-bb, as far as I know.
<
<http://www.arrl.org/amateur-code
<
<--- Zach
<N0ZGO
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
<Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:16:20 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <80be9ede-31d8-fcd3-ce32-de7d1b06a715@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 07/07/20 15:07, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.pd
f
> does state that ?All posts should include the author's first name and call
sign, or full name if not currently licensed.?

Hello Alan,

So, the upshot is that he forgot to include his call (if he has one).
The From/Reply-to lines have his full name.

In any case, it might be a better policy to use honey instead of a
stick. See the paragraph before the one you quoted:

> In order to preserve a constructive environment, we insist that posts
> contain appropriate content and are respectful of the members and
> readers of the AMSAT Lists.

73,

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:18:22 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@???.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CHIRP Datafile
Message-ID: <3967BFF9-1537-40B6-8907-4198BF6E6521@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

There is one on the SHACK AIDS page at ?

http://www.work-sat.com

A little old ? might still have ?85 on it ?

Clint K6LCS

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:29:35 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <000001d6549d$5484b430$fd8e1c90$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Zach,

<So, the upshot is that he forgot to include his call (if he has one).
<The From/Reply-to lines have his full name.

That was exactly my point to the OP in a slightly tongue in cheek manner,
but providing a reference which many/most of the BB do not know exits.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Zach
Metzinger via
<AMSAT-BB
<Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:16 PM
<To: amsat-bb@?????.???
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
<
<On 07/07/20 15:07, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
<>
https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.pd
f
<> does state that ?All posts should include the author's first name and
call sign, or full name
<if not currently licensed.?
<
<Hello Alan,
<
<So, the upshot is that he forgot to include his call (if he has one).
<The From/Reply-to lines have his full name.
<
<In any case, it might be a better policy to use honey instead of a
<stick. See the paragraph before the one you quoted:
<
<> In order to preserve a constructive environment, we insist that posts
<> contain appropriate content and are respectful of the members and
<> readers of the AMSAT Lists.
<
<73,
<
<--- Zach
<N0ZGO
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
<Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:24:44 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???>
To: Martin Cooper <kd6yam@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite Chirp File
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKMvw1=Z1wQ3Qi-3YgoXTzKVefF+y9oShUuLj3eHAwX4fA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

FWIW AFAIK most/all Japanese FM only radios don't support cross-band
memories. Chinese radios tend to, I believe.

73, John Brier KG4AKV

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:49 PM Martin Cooper via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Someone filed a ticket against Chirp for this back in 2017, and attached a
> sample stock config file. It has not (yet) been applied, and I'm sure the
> sample is outdated by now, but it might be a starting point.
>
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/issues/4573
>
> Martin.
> KD6YAM
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 8:28 AM Ev Tupis via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone posted a Chirp file that includes proper parameters for the FM
> > voice satellites (assuming that a separate channel pair is programmed to
> > compensate for Doppler during passes)?
> >
> > I'd appreciate being pointed to a link to it, if so.
> >
> > Ev, W2EV
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:50:19 -0500
From: "Ronald Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
To: <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-50 carrier frequency shift
Message-ID: <001201d654a8$9b985920$d2c90b60$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

The link below has an image of my waterfall during part of the SO-50 pass.
The two yellow arrows show two instances of several more that occurred
during the pass. The time scale in minutes is on the right of the waterfall.



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rl0LMMIHc_By96anqySUXmLAzURtQnH-/view?usp=s
haring



The down-shift was about 4 kHz although it was somewhat hard to measure
accurately due to the Doppler shift causing the signal trace to bend down
and to the right on the picture.



Ron W5RKN





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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:06:26 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <ef44ae16-145d-4e6c-edae-12167b1d5ef2@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On 7/7/2020 15:07, Alan via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> is not considered a hanging offence.
No offense, but did you get a bit of a guilt trip from some of the (also
tongue in cheek) Tweets and such from the other side of the Atlantic
regarding Independence Day, or something?

Jerry Buxton, N?JY



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:52:15 -0700
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Bob Liddy \(K8BL\)'" <k8bl@?????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <019501d654b9$a4ed8200$eec88600$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Bob, it's just Clint.....(no one gives a frosty crank, anyway ...it is his
agenda to screw AMSAT anyway he can since he was ousted as an AMSAT
Ambassador)

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Bob Liddy
(K8BL) via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:12 AM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?

 Why do people post items on a HAM RADIO BBS and NOT use their CALL LETTERS?
 Very rude! Why would someone make statements and keep themselves unknown?
It could be Spam for all we know!!!  Not signed.de  Bob  K8BL

    On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 10:09:36 AM EDT, Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 People throwing out large dollar amounts ... claiming mystery and
underhandedness ...

I see all this as an $803.50 issue.

Take those fees paid by duly-appointed AMSAT-NA officials, less the
forgivable $17K CARES grant,
and the true outlay is only $803.50.

Unrelated categories? Sure. But sure looks like AMSAT-NA is takin' care of
business.

The only current candidate who has shown total respect for amateur radio and
is dedicated to making
it more enjoyable for all is Bruce Paige, KK5DO.
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:57:01 -0700
From: "Ted Krempa" <k7trkradio@???????.???>
To: "'Zach Metzinger'" <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <019601d654ba$4f8d7850$eea868f0$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Bob's point was that it is disingenuous for someone to make some 'drive-by'
comments, and not identify. (Especially for a malcontent like Clint)

73, Ted
K7TRK



-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Zach
Metzinger via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:51 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?

On 07/07/20 10:11, Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>   Why do people post items on a HAM RADIO BBS and NOT use their CALL
LETTERS?  Very rude! Why would someone make statements and keep themselves
unknown? It could be Spam for all we know!!!  Not signed.de  Bob  K8BL

It is not a requirement to have an amateur radio license to be on
amsat-bb, as far as I know.

http://www.arrl.org/amateur-code

--- Zach
N0ZGO
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 20:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: 73 Bob W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] G5500 control unit switch
Message-ID: <2022317678.27070.1594180318539@???????.???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello I am going through some %$#$@ drama with Yaesu in trying to get a
simple switch with paddle for my G5500 control unit.  They sent me a couple
of switches the paddles do not come with the switch.  The switch and paddle
have been removed but the paddles I have on backorder (still on boat) if the
are the same as I have are incompatible with the switches they sent.  The
plot thickens.  I believe out there somewhere there is G5500 control unit
that is destroyed for whatever reason and I could cannibalize the switch. 
This drama with Yaesu has turned into a pita.  This is a potential high
failure item and should be easily available.  Help needed.
73 Bob W7LRD

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:24:31 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Malfeasance?
Message-ID: <eb0ecba1-fc48-b168-2bcf-d4db7ebc4db6@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 07/07/20 18:57, Ted Krempa wrote:
> Bob's point was that it is disingenuous for someone to make some
'drive-by' comments, and not identify. (Especially for a malcontent like
Clint)

I remember junior high well enough, I don't need a refresher.

Let's get back to discussing amateur radio in space.

73,

--- Zach
N0ZGO


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_______________________________________________
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AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide
without requiring membership.  Opinions expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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