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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Satelitte Rig, IC-7900 Pros & Cons (ke4kol)
   2. Re: Satelitte Rig, IC-7900 Pros & Cons (ke4kol)
   3. iPhone Program (BRAD SMITH)
   4. Yaesu G-5500 question (Bob Hammond)
   5. Fwd:  iPhone Program (Mark L. Hammond)
   6. Re: Yaesu G-5500 question (Rolf Krogstad)
   7. Re: iPhone Program (Thomas Schaefer)
   8. Re: Yaesu G-5500 question (Bob Hammond)
   9. Re: Yaesu G-5500 question (jim@?????.????
  10. Question on 23cm WiMo Helix (Thomas Schaefer)
  11. Re: Question on 23cm WiMo Helix (Rick Walter)
  12. Re: Yaesu G-5500 question (Bill Booth)
  13. Garmin ETREX 10 GPS (alex weimer)
  14. Test - Please ignore (Ronald Parsons)
  15. Re: Question on 23cm WiMo Helix (Bob Hammond)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:04:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: ke4kol <ke4kol@?????????.???>
To: Charles Reiche <charlieray@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satelitte Rig, IC-7900 Pros & Cons
Message-ID: <1488790816.851391.1585829086937@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Thanks for your replies.? I will sell off a couple of my radios and buy one.
Thanks again.? I appreciate it.
73s, Jim, Ke4kol

    On Monday, March 30, 2020, 10:32:20 AM EDT, Charles Reiche
<charlieray@?????.???> wrote:

 The only CON I can think of is the lack of 9600 baud transmit capability.
I've been enjoying mine.
N3CRT
Charles Reiche


On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 5:58 PM ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

Thinking about updating my sat station.? Any and all suggestions appreciated.
Thaks,Jim Ke4kol
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:07:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: ke4kol <ke4kol@?????????.???>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, 	Yono Adisoemarta
<yono_adisoemarta@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satelitte Rig, IC-7900 Pros & Cons
Message-ID: <959769187.861842.1585829224167@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Thanks for your replies.? I will sell off a couple of my radios and buy one.
Thanks again.? I appreciate it.
73s, Jim, Ke4kol


    On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 08:44:50 PM EDT, Yono Adisoemarta via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 Coming from Yaesu FT-847 and Kenwood TS-2000, I like my IC-9700 very much.

73 de Yono YD0NXX

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 4:58 AM, ke4kol via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:53:00 -0500
From: BRAD SMITH <corlissbs@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] iPhone Program
Message-ID: <CB10D7D5-BD9E-41A1-B0F4-5D7EF9772DC5@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I use the HamSat app from the App Store. It is so easy. I have tried others
and not been satisfied.  Brad KC9UQR

Sent from Brad?s iPad


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 07:14:46 -0700
From: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
Message-ID:
<CAKoB7OrzeN1iZOKzp-QBeikt0A5j_=b3ngOvND9KvspQYKzOJg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted on a
fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
weight opposite the antennas.

I think I've asked this question before and if so I'm asking it again
because, well, I CRS:

How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
counterbalance?  Any issues?

Bob W7OTJ


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 10:35:34 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd:  iPhone Program
Message-ID:
<CAPRXzyp6iBvsAQN_A4_wMCHm3RjMrNZydQ93aFbUY5d3KZT8TA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

For ease of use and setup (just add the satellites you want), I find SatSat
to be perfect for what I want to do; including a nice feature to add a
calendar reminder with notification!  Easy to see passes for the next week,
etc.

Try a few---use what works for you!  ;)

Mark N8MH

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:53 AM BRAD SMITH via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> I use the HamSat app from the App Store. It is so easy. I have tried
> others and not been satisfied.  Brad KC9UQR
>
> Sent from Brad?s iPad
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]


--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:42:39 -0500
From: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@?????.???>
To: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
Cc: "<AMSAT-BB@?????.???>" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
Message-ID:
<CAJJyj=b7PUWmU0fAYM-gzCU1q+hOJesg89m5sa5XZi8HnK=FsQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I did not use a counter balance.  Instead, I mounted the antennas at their
balance point on a fiberglass cross-boom.

Rolf   NR0T
EN34it

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:16 AM Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted on a
> fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
> weight opposite the antennas.
>
> I think I've asked this question before and if so I'm asking it again
> because, well, I CRS:
>
> How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> counterbalance?  Any issues?
>
> Bob W7OTJ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 10:49:42 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] iPhone Program
Message-ID: <8F06B862-F2A6-4F5D-8FC5-3139D8DA4CF5@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Try a few is great advice. I decided one day to download and try them
all?even if it cost a few bucks.

While I agree the ability too set calendar entries is great (and that is a
feature a few of them do), what I or another person like, might not work for
you. Also, not every app will have all the features you want normally. For
example, I would love to see a footprint in SatSat but it?s other features,
make it so darn easy to use in the field, I go with that one.


Good luck,

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)




> On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Mark L. Hammond via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> For ease of use and setup (just add the satellites you want), I find SatSat
> to be perfect for what I want to do; including a nice feature to add a
> calendar reminder with notification!  Easy to see passes for the next week,
> etc.
>
> Try a few---use what works for you!  ;)
>
> Mark N8MH
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:53 AM BRAD SMITH via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> I use the HamSat app from the App Store. It is so easy. I have tried
>> others and not been satisfied.  Brad KC9UQR
>>
>> Sent from Brad?s iPad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>
> --
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
>
>
> --
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:06:05 -0700
From: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
Message-ID:
<CAKoB7OqH49zgp7RBeagX+a_S-wvHuFUnBuLgUb0yQ5b7uUb3qQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thanks for the quick replies M5ET, NR0T, and VE3NXK.

The M2 LEO antennas are designed to be end-mounted and M2 has no idea how
they'll perform if mid-mounted as they aren't designed for that.  Hence, my
counterbalance scheme.

Bob W7OTJ


On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:01 AM Bill Booth <ve3nxk@?????.???> wrote:

> > How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> > counterbalance?
>
> I did not balance mine in the current install.  I did move the mounting
> brackets
> on the boom when I had the A40 dish on the main boom to help with balance.
>
> Attached pic of current setup.
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Booth VE3NXK
> Sundridge ON, Canada
> 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N
> FN05ns
>
> Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/wxcurrent/weather.html
>
> Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life
> Talk to your family.  Your decision can make a difference.
>


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: "jim@?????.???? <jim@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
Message-ID: <1585839642.67424083@????.?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8

Bob Hammond asked (in part):
> I have my M2 LEO antennas plus a WiMo 23cm helical antenna end-mounted on a
> fiberglass boom with the G-5500.  I also placed a counterbalance lead
> weight opposite the antennas.

> How many of you with similar antennas and a G-5500 have NOT used a
> counterbalance?  Any issues?

I would highly recommend against using any substantial antenna arrangement
on an elevation rotor without it being balanced.  If it is not balanced, you
are putting far more strain on the gears and motor.  Try this to understand
the difference.  Take your antenna, and hold it at one end with one hand. 
Point it at the horizon.  Then rotate it so it points straight up.  Now move
your hand so it is at the balance point, and repeat the demo.  Which one do
think is easier?  Don't have an antenna handy, use a long piece of pipe, or
conduit, or rebar, or even a stick or baseball bat.

73
-----
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@?????.???




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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:14:22 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Question on 23cm WiMo Helix
Message-ID: <25A7A4C0-AFEA-4F08-B689-DDEF62C1934A@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Reading the prior posts about the counterbalance, made me think again about
adding the 23 cm helix antenna to my sat beams before they go up, but I
wanted to check my thinking on this?

There appears to be only one L band satellite, AO-92. That is an uplink.
Given that, I obviously have no need for a preamp. But I also believe that I
need not worry too much about using anything better than LMR-400. In
checking the Times Microwave loss calculator, using LMR400 over a 50 foot
run would lose 2.6 dB. Using LMR-600, would lose 1.7 dB. 7/8? hardline would
be .8 dB. But given that the Helix has 13 dBd, that is over 100 watts at the
antenna. Plenty AO-92.

So while cable loss seems academic, are there any satellites in the works
accessible from the US with an L band downlink? If not, it appears LMR-400
is just fine (even with a short loop of LMR-400 UF at the top for the rotor).

Thanks,

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
Blog: www.ny4i.com
Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)






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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:43:55 -0400
From: Rick Walter <wb3csy@?????.???>
To: Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question on 23cm WiMo Helix
Message-ID: <FCC40655-B2B8-4B61-9B12-26BE69E009AD@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

There is no L band satellite downlink available In the US.
Rick WB3CSY

Sent from Rick's iPad 3
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out
of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm
for science intact" - Carl Sagan

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of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



> On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> ?Reading the prior posts about the counterbalance, made me think again
about adding the 23 cm helix antenna to my sat beams before they go up, but
I wanted to check my thinking on this?
>
> There appears to be only one L band satellite, AO-92. That is an uplink.
Given that, I obviously have no need for a preamp. But I also believe that I
need not worry too much about using anything better than LMR-400. In
checking the Times Microwave loss calculator, using LMR400 over a 50 foot
run would lose 2.6 dB. Using LMR-600, would lose 1.7 dB. 7/8? hardline would
be .8 dB. But given that the Helix has 13 dBd, that is over 100 watts at the
antenna. Plenty AO-92.
>
> So while cable loss seems academic, are there any satellites in the works
accessible from the US with an L band downlink? If not, it appears LMR-400
is just fine (even with a short loop of LMR-400 UF at the top for the rotor).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Blog: www.ny4i.com
> Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:36:31 -0400
From: Bill Booth <ve3nxk@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5500 question
Message-ID: <b812567b-aaf9-24f0-a845-4c8896113e3d@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 2020-04-02 11:06 a.m., Bob Hammond via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Thanks for the quick replies M5ET, NR0T, and VE3NXK.

Sorry I thought those were the bigger M2 versions.  YES I would add some
type of
counterbalance to those units.

--
Bill Booth VE3NXK
Sundridge ON, Canada
79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N
FN05ns

Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/wxcurrent/weather.html

Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life
Talk to your family.  Your decision can make a difference.


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:48:02 -0700 (MST)
From: alex weimer <ingejack@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Garmin ETREX 10 GPS
Message-ID: <562726480.195966.1585842482288@???????.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Thanks to all who answered my request. I now have the info I needed .. Looks
like it's the way to go for me . Thank you Paul and Patrick

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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 10:48:55 -0500
From: "Ronald Parsons" <w5rkn@?????.???>
To: <AMSAT-BB@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Test - Please ignore
Message-ID: <00c201d60906$37a74090$a6f5c1b0$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:05:26 -0700
From: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question on 23cm WiMo Helix
Message-ID:
<CAKoB7Opu9ZfW=5sx6oLW1ie6wP_DQy4VyZ=1v_aCVVOzJ_2UuQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Tom, I use 55 feet of Belden 9913F (flex) coax from my 9700 to the WiMo
23cm helical antenna and have no issues with AO-92 contacts.
The only issue I have is to remember to decrease the power out!

Bob W7OTJ

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:16 AM Thomas Schaefer via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Reading the prior posts about the counterbalance, made me think again
> about adding the 23 cm helix antenna to my sat beams before they go up, but
> I wanted to check my thinking on this?
>
> There appears to be only one L band satellite, AO-92. That is an uplink.
> Given that, I obviously have no need for a preamp. But I also believe that
> I need not worry too much about using anything better than LMR-400. In
> checking the Times Microwave loss calculator, using LMR400 over a 50 foot
> run would lose 2.6 dB. Using LMR-600, would lose 1.7 dB. 7/8? hardline
> would be .8 dB. But given that the Helix has 13 dBd, that is over 100 watts
> at the antenna. Plenty AO-92.
>
> So while cable loss seems academic, are there any satellites in the works
> accessible from the US with an L band downlink? If not, it appears LMR-400
> is just fine (even with a short loop of LMR-400 UF at the top for the
> rotor).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Blog: www.ny4i.com
> Madeira Beach, FL (Grid: EL87ot)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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