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Today's Topics:
1. Re: A couple of tracking API's under test now on
www.amsat.org (Joseph B. Fitzgerald)
2. JY1-Sat shows incorrect callsign on ranking (Loren M. Lang)
3. Re: Google Summer of Code - mentorship application from Open
Research Institute (Joshua Abraham)
4. Re: Google Summer of Code - mentorship application from Open
Research Institute (Joseph Armbruster)
5. Re: Google Summer of Code - mentorship application from Open
Research Institute (Joshua Ward)
6. Re: Google Summer of Code - mentorship application from Open
Research Institute (Michelle Thompson)
7. AMSAT-BB Acceptable Use (Robert Bankston)
8. Re: AMSAT-BB Acceptable Use (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 03:54:06 +0000
From: "Joseph B. Fitzgerald" <jfitzgerald@????.???.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] A couple of tracking API's under test now on
www.amsat.org
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?>
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Heimir W1ANT wrote:
> Let me know when you have something to test, and I will start working on a
new version of my app to use >it.
I wasn't paying attention and didn't realize your app was released. I
considere v1 still under test ?. How about we leave the spec for v2 open
for comment until Feb 15, then freeze an release it March 1. v1 will
be deprecated in the sense that documentation won't be available and
developers admonished not to write new apps against it.
>The QO-100 cannot be treated as a LEO satellite
Clearly not, but we shouldn't ignore it either. I am considering a response
with AOS at query time and duration 99years. With v2 and its provision
for error codes and messages we could simply say spacecraft never rises
(sets) at this location. This also helps with LEO sats with low
inclinations that never rise at high latitudes.
de KM1P Joe
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 02:19:01 -0800
From: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] JY1-Sat shows incorrect callsign on ranking
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Hello,
A while back, I requested a callsign change for the FUNcube data warehouse.
It was decided to leave my Site Id as my old callsign, AG7NC, and just
change the callsign presented on the warehouse rankings to show as K7IW.
However, it still seems that there are some places my Site Id is leaking
through. My uploads for JY1-Sat report using my old callsign/site id. If I
do a search on the rankings for K7IW, it only shows my contributions for
FUNcube-1 and Nayif-1. If I do a search for AG7NC, it returns back two
rows, the same K7IW contributions and also a row for AG7NC showing only my
JY1-Sat contributions. Can those be moved to show under K7IW with the
others?
- Loren
K7IW
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 01:57:29 -0500
From: Joshua Abraham <jarvideo@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Google Summer of Code - mentorship application
from Open Research Institute
Message-ID: <70CBCE37-5D5B-4345-97E0-52E3A677DD48@?????.???>
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I?m inclined to agree that a hateful response such as that does not belong
on this list.
What?s worse is to see it coming from someone who represents the organization.
KI7UNJ, I?m not sure where this frustration is coming from, but friend, this
was not the place to let it out.
Let?s all try to remember why we are here and why we became hams to begin
with.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:43 PM, W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
>
> KI7UNJ, what's your problem dude? If you aren't interested in furthering
tech, please shut your pie hole.
>
> ?___
> Sent from my two way wrist watch
> 73 de W3AB/GEO?
>
>> On Jan 16, 2020, 19:05, at 19:05, Tom Schaefer via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>> Wow! The AMSAT ambassador program clearly needs a course in people
>> skills. Who manages that program? I love supporting AMSAT ( I?m a life
>> member) but that can?t stand. To turn a phrase, I would think an AMSAT
>> Ambassador would know better.
>>
>> Keep at it Michelle. That?s a great idea.
>>
>> Tom NY4I
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Stefan Wagener via AMSAT-BB
>> <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Thanks Michelle,
>>>
>>> What a great opportunity for amateur radio folks to make a real
>> difference
>>> in young people and introduce them to our part of the hobby that
>> involves
>>> coding, SDR, etc. Thanks for doing this and making us aware of these
>>> opportunities. That's right in line with "services that present an
>>> opportunity for self-training, intercommunication, and technical
>>> investigations a foundation of amateur radio" plus all the STEM that
>> comes
>>> with it. Very nice and since it is open, it is accessible.
>>>
>>> As with all great ideas, you will unfortunately be confronted with
>> personal
>>> attacks and unfounded accusations. Glad you are sticking with it!
>>>
>>> 73, Stefan VE4SW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:31 PM KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB <
>>>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While I applaud your efforts, exactly how is this relevant to
>> amateur
>>>> satellites and being sent to the AMSAT-BB?
>>>>
>>>> Last time I checked we were AMSAT not ORI?
>>>>
>>>> Was spamming the physical mailing list with ORI letter headed
>> "propaganda"
>>>> not enough? Certainly, you have other means of publicizing, rather
>> than
>>>> spamming us on the AMSAT-BB and violating the terms of use For
>> someone who
>>>> throws a lot of unfounded accusations at others, you seem to do a
>> lot of
>>>> shady stuff. I thought a Board member would know better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> KI7UNJ
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 4:04 PM Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
>>>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Open Research Institute is looking to apply as a mentor in the
>> Google
>>>>> Summer of Code program. I believe participation can greatly benefit
>> the
>>>>> amateur satellite service. Special thanks to Wally Ritchie for
>> suggesting
>>>>> this path, and to Bruce Perens and Ben Hilburn for their support
>> and
>>>>> approval.
>>>>>
>>>>> Details about the program can be found here:
>>>>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> If approved, it would mean we would mentor student(s), at least
>> once a
>>>>> week, coordinating efforts to produce engineering in support of
>> achieving
>>>>> technical goals.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a significant time commitment, but we have plenty of really
>>>>> interesting and meaningful options for students to work on.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to apply, we need volunteers that can commit to working
>> with
>>>>> students. As of today, we have four enthusiastic volunteers that
>> cover a
>>>>> wide variety of technical fields. We are looking for more. AMSAT-BB
>> is
>>>> full
>>>>> of truly wonderful and qualified people.
>>>>>
>>>>> The deadline is 5 February 2020. If you can help with this, let us
>> know!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Michelle W5NYV
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings:
>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Casey Tucker KI7UNJ
>>>> AMSAT Ambassador
>>>> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
>>>> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
>>>> http://bit.do/ki7unj
>>>> <
>>>>
>>
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=152
1073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings:
>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings:
>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 06:41:14 -0500
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@?????.???>
To: "W3AB/GEO" <w3ab@?????.???>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Google Summer of Code - mentorship application
from Open Research Institute
Message-ID:
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W3AB/GEO. Honestly, this struck me as a little odd as well. . . ? Though,
my reaction is a little less disgruntled.
"""Open Research Institute is looking to apply as a mentor in the Google
Summer of Code program. I believe participation can greatly benefit the
amateur satellite service""".
My question is, why isn't this being promoted as an AMSAT program? On the
bb, I would have expected to see "AMSAT is looking to apply as a mentor
in..." According to AMSATs articles of incorporation, this is part of
what AMSAT is all about (ref:
https://www.amsat.org/articles-of-incorporation/). Michelle, you're on the
AMSAT BOD, correct? Why are you suggesting OSI act as a mentor and not
AMSAT? Was this kind of collaboration program attempted through AMSAT,
first, and if-so, did it fall through for some reason?
I had no clue who OSI is, so I just looked them up.
https://openresearch.institute/board-of-directors/. The poster and
volunteers; Bruce Perens, Ben Hilburn and Michelle Thompson are all on the
BOD of the OSI organization. Which is cool, it seems like they are into
science. On the projects side, I noticed this listed on the website:
"Phase 4 Ground <https://phase4ground.github.io/> is an Open Source
satellite ground station project primarily intended for AMSAT as the flight
customer and the Radio Amateur community as users. It is being developed by
Open Research Institute in order to manage the ITAR and EAR issues of a
pure Open Source (and Open Hardware) project. Michelle Thompson is the
chief scientist on the project. AMSAT online facilities are still being
used and we?ll migrate over time."
Was AMSAT and OSI partnered at all on this work? I'm a bit out of the
loop, so my apologies in advance if this is a silly question.
W3AB, furthering tech is cool... But as an AMSAT member, if it was promoted
and fell through at AMSAT for some reason, then I'm OK with it. But, as a
member, i'd still wonder why and would be worried.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:50 PM W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> KI7UNJ, what's your problem dude? If you aren't interested in furthering
> tech, please shut your pie hole.
>
> ?___
> Sent from my two way wrist watch
> 73 de W3AB/GEO?
>
> On Jan 16, 2020, 19:05, at 19:05, Tom Schaefer via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >Wow! The AMSAT ambassador program clearly needs a course in people
> >skills. Who manages that program? I love supporting AMSAT ( I?m a life
> >member) but that can?t stand. To turn a phrase, I would think an AMSAT
> >Ambassador would know better.
> >
> >Keep at it Michelle. That?s a great idea.
> >
> >Tom NY4I
> >
> >> On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Stefan Wagener via AMSAT-BB
> ><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Thanks Michelle,
> >>
> >> What a great opportunity for amateur radio folks to make a real
> >difference
> >> in young people and introduce them to our part of the hobby that
> >involves
> >> coding, SDR, etc. Thanks for doing this and making us aware of these
> >> opportunities. That's right in line with "services that present an
> >> opportunity for self-training, intercommunication, and technical
> >> investigations a foundation of amateur radio" plus all the STEM that
> >comes
> >> with it. Very nice and since it is open, it is accessible.
> >>
> >> As with all great ideas, you will unfortunately be confronted with
> >personal
> >> attacks and unfounded accusations. Glad you are sticking with it!
> >>
> >> 73, Stefan VE4SW
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:31 PM KI7UNJ Tucker via AMSAT-BB <
> >>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> While I applaud your efforts, exactly how is this relevant to
> >amateur
> >>> satellites and being sent to the AMSAT-BB?
> >>>
> >>> Last time I checked we were AMSAT not ORI?
> >>>
> >>> Was spamming the physical mailing list with ORI letter headed
> >"propaganda"
> >>> not enough? Certainly, you have other means of publicizing, rather
> >than
> >>> spamming us on the AMSAT-BB and violating the terms of use For
> >someone who
> >>> throws a lot of unfounded accusations at others, you seem to do a
> >lot of
> >>> shady stuff. I thought a Board member would know better.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> KI7UNJ
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 4:04 PM Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
> >>> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Open Research Institute is looking to apply as a mentor in the
> >Google
> >>>> Summer of Code program. I believe participation can greatly benefit
> >the
> >>>> amateur satellite service. Special thanks to Wally Ritchie for
> >suggesting
> >>>> this path, and to Bruce Perens and Ben Hilburn for their support
> >and
> >>>> approval.
> >>>>
> >>>> Details about the program can be found here:
> >>>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> If approved, it would mean we would mentor student(s), at least
> >once a
> >>>> week, coordinating efforts to produce engineering in support of
> >achieving
> >>>> technical goals.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a significant time commitment, but we have plenty of really
> >>>> interesting and meaningful options for students to work on.
> >>>>
> >>>> In order to apply, we need volunteers that can commit to working
> >with
> >>>> students. As of today, we have four enthusiastic volunteers that
> >cover a
> >>>> wide variety of technical fields. We are looking for more. AMSAT-BB
> >is
> >>> full
> >>>> of truly wonderful and qualified people.
> >>>>
> >>>> The deadline is 5 February 2020. If you can help with this, let us
> >know!
> >>>>
> >>>> -Michelle W5NYV
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> >views of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> program!
> >>>> Subscription settings:
> >https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Casey Tucker KI7UNJ
> >>> AMSAT Ambassador
> >>> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
> >>> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
> >>> http://bit.do/ki7unj
> >>> <
> >>>
> >
>
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=152
1073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> >available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions
> >>> expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> >views of
> >>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >program!
> >>> Subscription settings:
> >https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >program!
> >> Subscription settings:
> >https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >of AMSAT-NA.
> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >program!
> >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 05:36:24 -0000
From: Joshua Ward <josh_ward@??.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Google Summer of Code - mentorship application
from Open Research Institute
Message-ID: <3732f229-37ec-4f33-86bb-118a84d09846@??.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I?m new to the board but I follow along. I guess I can make the??long time
listener, first time caller joke?.
I know that you follow me on twitter and you know that I?m active in the
community, I?m not sure that I recognize any other other posters in this
thread and I?m not sure some/most of you have ever uploaded to LOTW. ?So,
greetings I guess.
One of my passions is flying high-altitude balloons and the whole reason I
got my tech license was to legally carry APRS for tracking. From there I
blundered into amsats and was hooked almost instantly.?
My first launch was Kickstarter funded and I kind of made a promise to my
backers that I?d talk to schools and involve myself in promoting STEM though
my HAB passion. I genuinely feel I?ve lived up to my end but I still sponsor
the occasional senior design project here at the university school of
engineering.?
This usually comes in the form of an ME or EE design and I?ve never dabbled
in sponsoring a CS project although I?ve got ideas.
Frankly, I?m not sure I have the kind of time it takes to mentor a student
right now but can you elaborate when you say: "I believe participation can
greatly benefit the amateur satellite service.? And ?we have plenty of
really interesting and meaningful options for students to work on."
-J
W3ARD
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:04:07 -0800
From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>
To: KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Google Summer of Code - mentorship application
from Open Research Institute
Message-ID:
<CACvjz2X7oXFpGejpuXUs+v=gT=3yhwHOQ+o_mk00QQFf+Xdc4w@????.?????.???>
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Greetings Tucker,
The work we would enable through GSoC, by mentoring students, would be
amateur satellite communications work.
Open Research Institute is a Member Society of AMSAT-NA.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 4:24 PM KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj@?????.???> wrote:
> While I applaud your efforts, exactly how is this relevant to amateur
> satellites and being sent to the AMSAT-BB?
>
> Last time I checked we were AMSAT not ORI?
>
> Was spamming the physical mailing list with ORI letter headed "propaganda"
> not enough? Certainly, you have other means of publicizing, rather than
> spamming us on the AMSAT-BB and violating the terms of use For someone
> who throws a lot of unfounded accusations at others, you seem to do a lot
> of shady stuff. I thought a Board member would know better.
>
>
> KI7UNJ
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 4:04 PM Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Open Research Institute is looking to apply as a mentor in the Google
>> Summer of Code program. I believe participation can greatly benefit the
>> amateur satellite service. Special thanks to Wally Ritchie for suggesting
>> this path, and to Bruce Perens and Ben Hilburn for their support and
>> approval.
>>
>> Details about the program can be found here:
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
>>
>> If approved, it would mean we would mentor student(s), at least once a
>> week, coordinating efforts to produce engineering in support of achieving
>> technical goals.
>>
>> This is a significant time commitment, but we have plenty of really
>> interesting and meaningful options for students to work on.
>>
>> In order to apply, we need volunteers that can commit to working with
>> students. As of today, we have four enthusiastic volunteers that cover a
>> wide variety of technical fields. We are looking for more. AMSAT-BB is
>> full
>> of truly wonderful and qualified people.
>>
>> The deadline is 5 February 2020. If you can help with this, let us know!
>>
>> -Michelle W5NYV
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Casey Tucker KI7UNJ
> AMSAT Ambassador
> https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
> https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
> http://bit.do/ki7unj
>
<https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=15
21073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:22:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Acceptable Use
Message-ID: <688827202.216670.1579270933393@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Last night, the AMSAT-BB was placed on Emergency Moderation, meaning all
posts had to be reviewed before released for public distribution.? This was
a precautionary measure taken to allow a "cooling off" period.
??
I remind all AMSAT-BB subscribers that while strong disagreements on issues
are inevitable, the AMSAT-BB list is not the place for exchanges which
become spiteful, unproductive exchanges. If you must have a heated exchange,
it should be conducted privately and not in public on a mailing list.
??
Posts must contain appropriate content and are respectful of the members and
readers of the AMSAT-BB.? All posts should include the author's first name
and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.? In general, posts
should be related to amateur radio satellites. Examples of on-topic posts
include:
? ? ?(1) Announcements of general interest, including, but not limited to,
AMSAT news, meetings, satellite availability, and DXpeditions.?
AMSAT Mailing List AUP;
? ? ?(2) Technical discussions, including the physics of space flight,
modulation techniques, satellite design, RF path loss calculations, noise
figure, etc.;
? ? ?(3) Inquiries and suggestions about choosing equipment, learning
operating techniques, and troubleshooting problems;
? ? ?(4) Discussion of AMSAT plans and policies in ways that foster better
understanding of the opportunities, trade-offs, and limitations that AMSAT
faces, and constructive suggestions for improvement; and
? ? ?(5) Posting of amateur radio satellite-related equipment and software
available for sale.?
??
What occurred last night was to the contrary and will not be tolerated.?
Further violations will result from removal from further use of AMSAT-BB.
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Please take a moment to review AMSAT's Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT
Public Mailing Lists
(https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.p
df).
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73,
Robert Bankston, KE4AL
Vice-President, User Services
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:55:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Acceptable Use
Message-ID: <1035628096.289567.1579280148033@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Robert,
I'm glad I missed whatever the objectionable things were that causedthe
warranted action to take place. Thank you for taking quick actionto save us
from the irritation.
And, I'm glad you reminded all Users that they should include their Nameand
Callsign whenever making a post. We too often see a post where someoneis
asking for all kinds of help with an issue and do not have the courtesy
tolet us know who they are. Maybe it's just an oversight, but it's poor
formnonetheless. I enjoy helping folks, but it's nice to know who they are.
Thanks for keeping our BB a helpful, professional and friendly resource
forall Users.
73,? ? Bob? K8BL? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (AMSAT #6593, since 1979)
On Friday, January 17, 2020, 11:14:20 AM EST, Robert Bankston via
AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
Last night, the AMSAT-BB was placed on Emergency Moderation, meaning all
posts had to be reviewed before released for public distribution.? This was
a precautionary measure taken to allow a "cooling off" period.
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I remind all AMSAT-BB subscribers that while strong disagreements on issues
are inevitable, the AMSAT-BB list is not the place for exchanges which
become spiteful, unproductive exchanges. If you must have a heated exchange,
it should be conducted privately and not in public on a mailing list.
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Posts must contain appropriate content and are respectful of the members and
readers of the AMSAT-BB.? All posts should include the author's first name
and call sign, or full name if not currently licensed.? In general, posts
should be related to amateur radio satellites. Examples of on-topic posts
include:
? ? ?(1) Announcements of general interest, including, but not limited to,
AMSAT news, meetings, satellite availability, and DXpeditions.?
AMSAT Mailing List AUP;
? ? ?(2) Technical discussions, including the physics of space flight,
modulation techniques, satellite design, RF path loss calculations, noise
figure, etc.;
? ? ?(3) Inquiries and suggestions about choosing equipment, learning
operating techniques, and troubleshooting problems;
? ? ?(4) Discussion of AMSAT plans and policies in ways that foster better
understanding of the opportunities, trade-offs, and limitations that AMSAT
faces, and constructive suggestions for improvement; and
? ? ?(5) Posting of amateur radio satellite-related equipment and software
available for sale.?
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What occurred last night was to the contrary and will not be tolerated.?
Further violations will result from removal from further use of AMSAT-BB.
??
Please take a moment to review AMSAT's Acceptable Use Policy for the AMSAT
Public Mailing Lists
(https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AMSAT_AUP_061819.p
df).
??
73,
Robert Bankston, KE4AL
Vice-President, User Services
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
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