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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: APRS Satellite PATHs (Fred Hillhouse)
   2. Re: APRS Satellite PATHs (Robert Bruninga)
   3. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-16 03:00	UTC
      (aj9n@???.????
   4. Unable to igate AISAT (pedro@??????????.?????
   5. Re: APRS Satellite PATHs (Ryan Noguchi)
   6. Re: Posting to AMSAT-BB with Unsubscribed Email Account
      (Burns Fisher)
   7. Re: Unable to igate AISAT (Scott)
   8. Re: APRS Satellite PATHs (Robert MacHale)
   9. TAPR Trakbox Kit FS (Robert Switzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:09:04 -0400
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@???????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
Message-ID: <029201d53b59$eb1b7130$c1525390$@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

That is good to know!

In the radio there are two settings; Network and Packet Path.

Does the "Network" stay "APRS"? Or should it be set to "ARISS"?
I assume the Packet Path becomes "ARISS" or "APRSAT". Correct?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH


-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:26 PM
To: KE6BLR Robert; amsat bb
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs

Actually, when you use ARISS or APRSAT then the signal comes down as
RS0ISS* if it went via ISS, and comes down as PSAT,ARISS* or PSAT2,ARISS*
if it went via one of those.  Yes, it is a parsing pain, but a simple
rule.  If you see ARISS*, then simply find the actual satellite in the
previous field.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:31 PM KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
> (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
>
> For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
> digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there
> is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
>
> http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/
>
> See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
> soon.
>
> As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As
the
> user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
> convenient.
>
> 73
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> >  Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic
> ARISS
> > or APRSAT paths.
> >
> > Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> > band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least there
> > are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done
> it
> > a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
> >
> > Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode,
> but
> > the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> > different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode
and
> > enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't know
> if
> > 5 kHz steps will cut it.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >     On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> >  Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you
are
> > saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That means
> > the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> > qualifier I have missed?
> >
> > PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> > APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
> >
> > Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB PSK31
> > User Station Software Configuration:
> > First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler
on
> > the uplink.
> >
> > The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT
(D72)
> > as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a satellite
> is
> > the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get
> information
> > out.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Fred N7FMH
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Ryan
> > Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> > To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
> >
> >  FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband
> at
> > different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want
to
> > be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
> >
> > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
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> expressed
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:43:10 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: Fred Hillhouse <fmhillhouse@???????.???>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
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yes, network stays APRS.  Path is ARISS

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:08 PM Fred Hillhouse via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> That is good to know!
>
> In the radio there are two settings; Network and Packet Path.
>
> Does the "Network" stay "APRS"? Or should it be set to "ARISS"?
> I assume the Packet Path becomes "ARISS" or "APRSAT". Correct?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best regards,
> Fred N7FMH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Robert
> Bruninga via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:26 PM
> To: KE6BLR Robert; amsat bb
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
>
> Actually, when you use ARISS or APRSAT then the signal comes down as
> RS0ISS* if it went via ISS, and comes down as PSAT,ARISS* or PSAT2,ARISS*
> if it went via one of those.  Yes, it is a parsing pain, but a simple
> rule.  If you see ARISS*, then simply find the actual satellite in the
> previous field.
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:31 PM KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> > Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
> > (RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
> >
> > For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
> > digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT
> there
> > is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
> >
> > http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/
> >
> > See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime
> > soon.
> >
> > As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As
> the
> > user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
> > convenient.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
> > amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> >
> > >  Yes, that's correct. FalconSat-3 doesn't digipeat using the generic
> > ARISS
> > > or APRSAT paths.
> > >
> > > Agreed, it's a pain to have to keep changing PATH, baud rate, and data
> > > band between FalconSat-3 and the other packet satellites. At least
> there
> > > are only two configurations to have to toggle between. Once you've done
> > it
> > > a couple dozen times, it becomes second nature.
> > >
> > > Yes, PSAT2 (and apparently also AISAT) may need to use Narrow FM mode,
> > but
> > > the mode can be easily programmed into memory channels. I just set up a
> > > different set of memory channels for PSAT2 and AISAT to set that mode
> and
> > > enable (crude) Doppler correction. I haven't used them yet so don't
> know
> > if
> > > 5 kHz steps will cut it.
> > >
> > > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> > >
> > >     On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 10:14:18 AM PDT, Fred Hillhouse via
> > > AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Regardless of the other operational requirements of FalconSAT-3, you
> are
> > > saying FalconSAT-3 will not digipeat using the generic paths. That
> means
> > > the text in the links provided is incorrect. Or is there some other
> > > qualifier I have missed?
> > >
> > > PSAT2 is also a different beast apparently. The text in the link imply
> > > APRS uplinks are narrowband. From the PSAT2 link:
> > >
> > > Uplinks: 145.825 MHz narroband [sic] FM packet and 29.4815 MHz SSB
> PSK31
> > > User Station Software Configuration:
> > > First bullet - Radios must be in Narrowband and track to 1 KHz Doppler
> on
> > > the uplink.
> > >
> > > The reason for asking is to be able to make as few changes to an HT
> (D72)
> > > as possible. And the main use is to achieve a digipeat. When a
> satellite
> > is
> > > the only APRS network available it could be a useful way to get
> > information
> > > out.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Fred N7FMH
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Ryan
> > > Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:11 PM
> > > To: amsat-bb@?????.???
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
> > >
> > >  FalconSat-3 is a different beast: 9600 bps vs. 1200 bps, and crossband
> > at
> > > different frequencies than the 1200 bps packet satellites. If you want
> to
> > > be digipeated by FalconSat-3, you need to use the PFS3-1 PATH.
> > >
> > > 73, Ryan AI6DO
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> expressed
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>


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 03:28:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: aj9n@???.???
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-16
03:00	UTC
Message-ID: <1581505683.1026767.1563247687373@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2019-07-16 03:00 UTC

?

Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:

?

About Gagarin From Space.? Performing amateur radio communication session
with the 8th International Aerospace School. U.N. Sultanova rep.
Bashkortostan; Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka,
Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact was successful Thu 2019-07-11 20:30 UTC (***)

======================================================================

About Gagarin From Space.? Performing amateur radio communication session
with the 8th International Aerospace School. U.N. Sultanova rep.
Bashkortostan; Aerospace School of. U.N. Sultanova summer camp, Kalinovka,
Davlekanovsky, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS

The scheduled astronaut is Alexey Ovchinin

Contact is go for Tue 2019-07-16 19:35 UTC
======================================================================

24th World Scout Jamboree, Summit Bechtel Scout Reserve, West Virginia,
telebridge via ON4ISS (***)

The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***)

The scheduled astronaut is Drew Morgan KI5AAA

Contact is go for: Sat 2019-07-27 18:27:56 UTC 68 deg

?

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

?

For many years I have on purpose not given the actual hyperlinks; I assume
the user would do a copy/paste into their favorite browser.? I am now
thinking that the browsers have all grown up and most should be able to
handle the link.? Please let me know you experience any issues.? So now you
should be able to directly click on the link.? (***)

?

Note, all times are approximate. ?It is recommended that you do your own

orbital prediction?or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed

time.

All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and

time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

?

The complete schedule page has been updated as of?2019-07-16 03:00 UTC.? (***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled?school contacts, and

questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and

instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

?

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

?

?

The successful school list has been updated as of 2019-07-16 03:00 UTC. (***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

?

?

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

The main page for Applying to Host a Scheduled Contact may be found at
http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html ???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (United States)

?

The ARISS webpage is at http://www.ariss.org/ ???

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************
****************

ARISS Contact Applications (Europe, Africa and the Middle East)

?

Schools and Youth organizations in Europe, Africa and the Middle East
interested in setting up an ARISS radio contact with an astronaut on board
the International Space Station are invited to submit an application from
September to October and from February to April.

Please refer to details and the application form at
www.ariss-eu.org/school-contacts.? Applications should be addressed by email
to:? school.selection.manager@????????.???

?

ARISS Contact Applications (Canada, Central and South America, Asia and
Australia and Russia)

?

Organizations outside the United States can apply for an ARISS contact by
filling out an application.? Please direct questions to the appropriate
regional representative listed below. If your country is not specifically
listed, send your questions to the nearest ARISS Region listed. If you are
unsure which address to use, please send your question to the ARISS-Canada
representative; they will forward your question to the appropriate
coordinator.

?

For the application, go to:? http://www.ariss.org/ariss-application.html.

ARISS-Canada and the Americas, except USA: Steve McFarlane, VE3TBD email to:
ve3tbd@?????.???

ARISS-Japan, Asia, Pacific and Australia: Satoshi Yasuda, 7M3TJZ email to:
ariss@???????.???? Japan Amateur Radio League (JARL) http://www.jarl.org/

ARISS-Russia: Soyuz Radioljubitelei Rossii (SRR) https://srr.ru/

?

?

******************************************************************************

ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.?
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.? Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@?????.??? or aj9n@???.???.

?

Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.

?

******************************************************************************
*

?

All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.

?

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*


Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. ?That has now been changed to http://www.ariss.org/

?

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.

?

****************************************************************************

Looking for something new to do?? How about receiving DATV from the ISS??
Please note that the HamTV system has been brought back to earth for
troubleshooting.? Please monitor ARISS-EU or ARISS-ON for the very latest
news on the troubleshooting efforts.?

?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete details.?
Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.????????????

?

http://www.ariss-eu.org/

?

If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight.? Contact Kerry at kbanke@?????????.???

?

?

The HamTV webpage:? https://www.amsat-on.be/hamtv-summary/

?

?

****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:

?

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 135

Francesco IK?WGF with 132

Gaston ON4WF with 123

Sergey RV3DR with 119 (***)

?

****************************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date

webpages were removed, and new ones have been added.? If there are additional

ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.

?

?

?

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1323. (***)

Each school counts as 1 event.

Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1266. (***)

Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.

Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

?

A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the

file.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

?

Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
South Dakota, Wyoming, American?Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and
the Virgin Islands.

?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

?

QSL information may be found at:

http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

?

ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS

?

****************************************************************************



Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing

Doppler correction? as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.r
tf



Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

?

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415

****************************************************************************

?

Exp. 59 on orbit

Christina Koch

Aleksey Ovchinin

Nick Hague KG5TMV

?

****************************************************************************

73,

Charlie?Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:02:01 +0000
From: pedro@??????????.????
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unable to igate AISAT
Message-ID:
<20190716120201.Horde.Ovv2mAnBq-FwVvj4Qn-cMAJ@???????.??????????.????>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes

Hi all,

A little help.
Seems that I'm unable to igate AISAT traffic, despite I can do it for
all others (PSAT, PSAT2, PCSAT, BRICSAT2, ISS, BIRDBT, etc)
Currently using UI-View32. Any special setup in the igate.ini settings?

Thanks,
73 CU2ZG
Pedro


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:18:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
Message-ID: <1079871681.1172269.1563290319059@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 I admit I am not very familiar with the packet format, but that feed seems
to identify the satellite that digipeated (or originated) each packet.
Yesterday, Christy KB6LTY and I exchanged messages on AISAT, which can be
seen in that packet stream, even though I used only the path ARISS. And
KE4AZZ had packets digipeated by PSAT2. What am I missing?

73, Ryan AI6DO



    On Monday, July 15, 2019, 1:31:37 PM PDT, KE6BLR Robert
<ke6blr.robert@?????.???> wrote:

 Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
(RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there
is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/?

See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime soon.

As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As the
user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
convenient.
73




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 11:02:29 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <wb1fj-bb@??????.??>
To: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Posting to AMSAT-BB with Unsubscribed Email
Account
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxVaSCruTGA3WSY+OjV2uAqf3AuUnHSfmNvhz5082L627A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thanks to Robert for posting this.  I'm sure that we can save him or others
a lot of work by trying to post from the same address that we receive
from.  I wanted to remind folks of another case where this problem can
happen.

If you use gmail, then it is possible to append a "+" to you address
followed by anything.  The plus sign and everything after it is ignored but
you can use this added bit for filtering.   For example,
mymail+amsat@?????.??? will go to mymail@?????.???.  However, if you reply
to the same address, the reply will come from mymail, not mymail+amsat.
I'm still searching for ways to actually send automatically from an alias
address but have not yet found it.

However, if you do want to be able to filter, you can use your "real" email
address and filter on [amsat-bb] in the subject line.

My own case was worse--I had the bb going through "call at amsat.org" and
that forwarded to a plus-sign alias!  I've fixed that, but I still have to
remember manually to change my "from" address.

73,

Burns WB1FJ

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:16 PM Robert Bankston via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

>
> There has been an increasing trend on AMSAT-BB, wheresubscribers are
> posting to the BB with an email other than they one they usedto subscribe
> to the list.  Usually these listmembers signed up with redirect email
> account (@?????.??? or @????.????? but attemptto post a message from
> their personal account. Others, who have multiple email accounts
> accidentally select the wrongone.  When either of these situationsoccur,
> their post is put in quarantine until a list moderator physically logs in
> andclears it out.
>
> Your quarantined message is not alone.  AMSAT-BB gets 300+ spam emails a
> day.  Each time a post is placed in quarantine, thelist moderators receives
> an email notification. You can do the math to figure out how many emails we
> get each and everyday.
>
> I bring this up to help you realize that clearing your emailis not a fast
> process.  We could take thetime to look up your name and/or call sign to
> make sure you are a subscriber,but, to be honest, this is not an easy
> process. Instead, you will more than likely receive an email stating
> ?Non-membersare not allowed to post messages to this list.? The easy fix is
> just to resend you post from your subscribed emailaccount.  If you changed
> email accounts,please visit the AMSAT-BB Info page:
> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb.  From here you can log
> into your account andchange your email address.
>
> Thank you for your understanding.
>
> 73,
> Robert Bankston, KE4ALAMSAT-NA VP of User Services
> _
>


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:06:47 -0400
From: Scott <scott23192@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Unable to igate AISAT
Message-ID:
<CAJCSnOZyhWUa8ZgdYppqWtG0186_wdfKNAGGemweeP379VX9gA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hello Pedro!

The packets transmitted by AISAT-1 are not formed correctly, so they will
not be processed normally & accepted on the APRS-IS network.

Thankfully, instead of just letting AISAT-1 orbit as mostly useless space
debris (heard only by each of us individually with no participation on the
greater APRS network), Robert (KE6BLR) has setup a proxy for iGates that
corrects the packets from AISAT-1 and forwards proper packets on to the
APRS-IS so that the traffic can be seen on sites like FINDU.com.

I suggest that you contact Robert at ke6blr.robert@?????.??? to see about
having your iGate proxy through his server when AISAT-1 is over your
location.

-Scott,  K4KDR

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On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:12 AM Pedro via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A little help.
> Seems that I'm unable to igate AISAT traffic, despite I can do it for
> all others (PSAT, PSAT2, PCSAT, BRICSAT2, ISS, BIRDBT, etc)
> Currently using UI-View32. Any special setup in the igate.ini settings?
>
> Thanks,
> 73 CU2ZG
> Pedro
>


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:32:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert MacHale <robert.machale@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] APRS Satellite PATHs
Message-ID: <613931995.2720062.1563294751426@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

You may be right.
Bob Bruninga mentioned a scenario where the ARISS path becomes PSAT, ARISS*
because the satellite inserts the call sign.
73
Robert MacHale. KE6BLR Ham Radio License.?http://spaceCommunicator.club/igates
. Supporting Boy Scout Merit Badges in Radio, Robotics, and Space Exploration


    On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 8:20:01 AM PDT, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

  I admit I am not very familiar with the packet format, but that feed seems
to identify the satellite that digipeated (or originated) each packet.
Yesterday, Christy KB6LTY and I exchanged messages on AISAT, which can be
seen in that packet stream, even though I used only the path ARISS. And
KE4AZZ had packets digipeated by PSAT2. What am I missing?

73, Ryan AI6DO



? ? On Monday, July 15, 2019, 1:31:37 PM PDT, KE6BLR Robert
<ke6blr.robert@?????.???> wrote:?

 Just a thought -- one of the benefits of using the actual call sign
(RS0ISS, PSAT, PSAT2) rather than ARISS or APRSAT is for the record.
For example, I am calculating the Az/El of each contact based on the
digipeated (PSAT*) path. When the digipeated path is ARISS or APRSAT there
is no good way to clarify which satellite participated in the packet.
http://www.spacecommunicator.club/igates/?

See the Az/El columns for PSAT; I plan to add Az/El for others sometime soon.

As a consumer of the data, I prefer seeing the individual call sign. As the
user of the radio, I can see how using APRSAT for everything is more
convenient.
73


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:19:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TAPR Trakbox Kit FS
Message-ID: <1311608813.2734017.1563297576114@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is essentially NOS. I purchased it from another ham a couple of years
back and did not open anything, except to read
the instructions.
$50 including shipping.
Robert KA2CZU


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