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Today's Topics:
1. Re: WA9JBQ Request (Kevin)
2. Re: AMSAT Leadership Explanation ... (Zach Metzinger)
3. Re: The Explanition Has Come (Kevin)
4. Re: Can't Control IC-910 Using Gpredict/Hamlib On Raspberry
Pi (B J)
5. Re: The Explanition Has Come (Arthur Feller)
6. Re: Can't Control IC-910 Using Gpredict/Hamlib On Raspberry
Pi (Mark Jessop)
7. Re: Modeling the AA2TX Parasitic Lindenblad (Zach Metzinger)
8. Re: Modeling the AA2TX Parasitic Lindenblad (Curt Laumann)
9. Re: The Explanition Has Come (Daniel Schultz)
10. Re: The Explanition Has Come (73 Bob W7LRD)
11. Re: AMSAT Leadership Explanation ... (Alan)
12. Foolishness (Nick Pugh)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:20:09 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] WA9JBQ Request
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Brad,
?? And how would you describe the ethics of the two newest board
members each creating online blogs where they cast doubt on AMSAT and
the people running it? A little over a month on the BOD and in Oct
already on that blog posting grievances. Seems to me as new members to
the BOD they should have exhausted every possible avenue to resolve any
problems before taking that step.
?? It sure has eroded any confidence that I had in them and wish I
could get my ballot back.
? I can not remember new board members ever creating this much grief, I
would hope that it could somehow be resolved but if not and if this is
going to be a ongoing thing then it seems to me that they are the ones
that should step down.
Kevin WA7FWF #19623
On 7/10/2020 5:02 PM, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I will second Rick's request. The past actions against the new board
members showed the poorest leadership that I have ever seen. The ethics of
this action eroded away any confidence that I had in this board.
> 73 Brad KC9UQR
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 20:33:05 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Leadership Explanation ...
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On July 10, 2020 8:19:19 PM CDT, "H. Stephen Nipper via AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>We all need to remember that this is a hobby, and hobbies are there to
>enjoy and have fun. Lets get over this crap and back to having fun.
>
>I have been off the air for 8 months now, I really didn't like coming
>down
>off my tower today to see all of the emails about this.
Amen. Let's get this off the list and back to playing with radio.
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 19:09:11 -0700
From: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
To: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle@?????.???>, David Swanson
<dave@?????????????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] The Explanition Has Come
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Michelle,
??? I remember and agree with the BOD in the past being pretty tight
lipped on the internal disagreements and very careful in their public
statements, I must say that you and Patrick are anything but.
? I only found out about the blogs you and Patrick decided to put up
recently and the more I read them the more they concern me.? You two
seem to have no issue at complaining about anything you do not like
online in these blogs and then put out open calls to storm the Bastille
and that we should all contact the BOD and President to act on your
grievances.
?You're upset about AMSAT hiring some legal advice yet it seems the two
you were the reason for the need!
? I just re-read your board statement when you were running, NO WHERE
does it say you're an activist, and I should expect activism such as
this and that if elected you will be here to? go online and blog? every
time you do not like something or something does not go your way.
?If you are serious about working with the BOD then you and Patrick
need to take down those blogs and work out your grievances in the
confines of the BOD, if not and this online tirade is going to continue
then do yourself and everyone else a favor and step down.
Kevin WA7FWF #19623
On 7/10/2020 5:45 PM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> I'm not sure anyone is going to take you very seriously, since you
> have repeatedly and stridently yelped for my resignation, since the
> day I was elected, for:
>
> 1) Playing Pokemon GO (somehow that's a firing offense... "GO figure")
> 2) Having a pile of books fall over on my desk (somehow I can't serve
> as a Director because I tweeted about having too many books)
> 3) Pointing out (privately) that sexist language doesn't belong in
> AMSAT management.
> 4) Pointing out (privately) that official social media accounts
> weren't doing what they promised to do.
> 5) Being at Comic-Con.
> 6) Promoting microwave broadband digital birds.
> 7) Having the nerve to found a 501(c)(3) dedicated to open source R&D
> for amateur radio and beyond.
> 8) Breathing.
>
> Please notice that I have yet to squall for anyone's resignation. I am
> ready and willing to work with anyone. I am ready to defend Clayton
> despite the authorship of this very regrettable admission of AMSAT
> failing to follow its own bylaws or DC corporate code. I actually
> liked working with him. He has permission to share any private
> messages I've sent him.
>
> I do appreciate the opportunity you have given me to share my report.
>
>
https://w5nyv.blogspot.com/2020/07/report-to-members-8-amsat-na-board-of.html
>
> This is the 8th in a series. I ran on transparency, trust, and
> technology.
>
> I'm an activist.
>
> If you elect an activist, expect activism. Some of what I found is
> obviously uncomfortable. The incumbents have reacted in entirely
> predictable ways. If the members want comfortable waste firmly
> ensconced in the past, then go ahead, re-elect the incumbents.
>
> I've raised real money for AMSAT R&D this year. It adds up to over
> $65k. Open Research Institute is an AMSAT Member Society. That means
> that it's recognized as an asset to AMSAT, works for AMSAT's
> interests, and attacking it is just plain stupid.
>
> I've confronted the board about unauthorized spending. I brought
> receipts.
>
> Patrick deserves the majority of the credit for stopping this
> obscenely wasteful practice of hiring lawyers on the sly.
>
> Fiducial responsibility is really all we as Directors are required to
> do. This is basic oversight of an organization. Unlike other things we
> do, it's not rocket science.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 03:18:42 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
To: Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Can't Control IC-910 Using Gpredict/Hamlib On
Raspberry Pi
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I gathered the author is aware of the bug, but when it'll be fixed remains
to be seen. I can manage with what I'm using now, though it would be nice
if I could get it to run on a Raspberry Pi.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:16 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> Bernhard,
>
> Have you tried the GPredict Forum? Thats where I learned about the
> 910/9700 patch (but I don't own either so don't have experience). I think
> the patch author or Alex Csete would be happy to describe the process.
>
> https://community.libre.space/c/gpredict/17
>
> --Roy
> K3RLD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 23:36:53 -0400
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@????.???>
To: Kevin <wa7fwf@?????.???>
Cc: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] The Explanition Has Come
Message-ID: <AFF1B018-C118-4971-A93C-122B7CF34BFC@????.???>
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Hey, folks. Discuss all you want, but please, maintain comity [courtesy and
considerate behaviour towards others]. Sniping at each other can?t be
constructive.
Have an issue? Put it on the table with supporting data and suggested
realistic solutions with supporting reasoning. Then, let the Officers and
the Board do their jobs using the information you supply. Agree or
disagree? Vote accordingly. Maintain comity. Always.
I hope this helps.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
LM-113
To thrive in life, you need three bones: a wish bone, a back bone, and a
funny bone.
- Reba McEntire
http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:08:26 +0930
From: Mark Jessop <vk5qi@??????.???>
To: B J <va6bmj@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Roy Dean <royldean@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Can't Control IC-910 Using Gpredict/Hamlib On
Raspberry Pi
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Unfortunately the overlap between people who have the skills to debug and
code such systems, those that have access to the shiny radios that need
support, and those that actually have the time to work on such a thing, is
pretty small.
This makes it pretty difficult for issues like this to get resolved.
73
Mark VK5QI
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 12:50 PM B J via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:
> I gathered the author is aware of the bug, but when it'll be fixed remains
> to be seen. I can manage with what I'm using now, though it would be nice
> if I could get it to run on a Raspberry Pi.
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:16 PM Roy Dean via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Bernhard,
> >
> > Have you tried the GPredict Forum? Thats where I learned about the
> > 910/9700 patch (but I don't own either so don't have experience). I
> think
> > the patch author or Alex Csete would be happy to describe the process.
> >
> > https://community.libre.space/c/gpredict/17
> >
> > --Roy
> > K3RLD
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 23:29:33 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modeling the AA2TX Parasitic Lindenblad
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On July 10, 2020 6:41:54 PM CDT, Michelle Thompson
<mountain.michelle@?????.???> wrote:
>Would HFSS help?
Thank you for the offer, but HFSS is commercial and pricey. I have access to
similar tools through my workplace, but this exercise should be solvable
with nec2, I think. That way, others can build off of it, should they want to.
--- Zach
N0ZGO
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:43:00 -0700
From: Curt Laumann <curt.laumann@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Modeling the AA2TX Parasitic Lindenblad
Message-ID:
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Hi Zach,
My intuition is that the relatively small change in the diameter of the
radiating element, and material change, will not significantly change the
performance of the paralindy antenna.
Increasing the diameter of radiating dipole elements has the effect of
broadening an SWR curve, providing more usable bandwidth. Consider a
75-meter dipole comprised of one wire, then increase it's effective
diameter by replacing it with a "caged dipole" of four wires separated by a
foot or so.
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/pdf/The%20Cage%20is%20Back%20W1AW.pd
f
Furthermore, the change in diameter you're proposing (0.1 in) is a very
small fraction of the design wavelength -- so I wouldn't expect to see any
significant broadening of the performance vs frequency.
My intuition is guided by a couple of semesters of E&M and a few decades of
antenna building and testing. BUT it's only my *intuition*, and I'd be
very interested in hearing the results of any modeling!
As an aside, I'm also working to build this antenna with my newly-acquired
3D printer, using PETG in fact! I'm redesigning the 70-cm Lindy as well as
2-m Lindy to use arrow shaft elements. In this manner the antenna will be
easy to disassemble and easily portablized. Or transported :)
Curt / K7ZOO
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:45 PM Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Would HFSS help?
>
> If you have a sketch, then I have someone that can model it at no cost.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:05 PM Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I've been intrigued by Tony's Parasitic Lindenblad ever since I first
> > read about it. I have a center section in CAD, suitable for 3D printing
> > in PET-G, which eliminates the messy gluing, etc. and gives me a chance
> > to use my printer. :-)
> >
> > However, I'd like to eliminate the requirement for the 0.750" OD
> > aluminum mast and replace it with 0.650" OD (name: 1/2") copper water
> > pipe, which can be readily found in any hardware store. Given the
> > appropriate paint coating, copper pipe has held up well over many years
> > at my QTH when exposed to the elements.
> >
> > I am using Xnec2c on FreeBSD, but any NEC program should be able to use
> > the deck, to model the antenna. However, my dimensions don't seem to
> > match what Tony came up with. Are there any NEC gurus in the audience?
> >
> > Here's my sophomore stab at the antenna deck:
> >
> > CM --- NEC2 Input File created or edited by xnec2c 3.4 ---
> > CM AA2TX Parasitic Lindenblad -- All distances in meters
> > CM Goal is to use 1/2" copper water pipe for dipole element (0.650" OD)
> > instead of 3/4" OD aluminum pole
> > CE --- End Comments ---
> > GW 1 15 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 -1.39000E-01 0.00000E+00
> > 0.00000E+00 1.39000E-01 1.58750E-02
> > GW 2 15 2.58000E-01 8.50000E-02 1.49000E-01 -2.58000E-01
> > 8.50000E-02 -1.49000E-01 1.50000E-03
> > GW 3 15 -2.58000E-01 -8.50000E-02 1.49000E-01 2.58000E-01
> > -8.50000E-02 -1.49000E-01 1.50000E-03
> > GW 4 15 8.50000E-02 2.58000E-01 -1.49000E-01 8.50000E-02
> > -2.58000E-01 1.49000E-01 1.50000E-03
> > GW 5 15 -8.50000E-02 2.58000E-01 1.49000E-01 -8.50000E-02
> > -2.58000E-01 -1.49000E-01 1.50000E-03
> > GE 0 0 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > EX 0 1 8 0 1.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > FR 0 20 0 0 4.30000E+02 1.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > NH 0 0 0 0 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > NE 0 10 1 10 -1.35000E+00 0.00000E+00 -1.35000E+00
> > 3.00000E-01 0.00000E+00 3.00000E-01
> > RP 0 19 37 1000 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 1.00000E+01
> > 1.00000E+01 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > EN 0 0 0 0 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> > 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00
> >
> > Questions that arise from an afternoon of fiddling with this:
> >
> > 1) Should I model the driven element as two wires with the 1/4" gap
> > between them? If so, how would I do this?
> >
> > 2) Will the 0.100" difference in OD make enough of a difference to even
> > go through this exercise?
> >
> > Any and all comments, especially from NEC gurus, appreciated!
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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> >
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:03:37 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@???.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] The Explanition Has Come
Message-ID: <401ygkccl2976Set.1594433017@?????.???.???.???>
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We have recently discussed in this forum the reasons why there are no more ham
radio satellites in HEO. We have reviewed the various external factors such as
a saturated and highly commercial secondary launch market, new government
regulations that did not exist 25 years ago, commercial and government
interests that might simply prefer that amateur radio and amateur satellites
"go away" in order to make life easier for them, and other factors all
external to AMSAT.
What we did not consider was the possibility of internal squabbles threatening
the organization. I have seen more than one organization fall apart because of
such in-fighting. Please be aware that this internal threat can be deadlier
than any of the external factors that are preventing us from launching new
satellites. I don't know which side is right. Perhaps both sides, perhaps
neither side. I just know that it would be a god-awful shame if AMSAT's
remarkable 50 year adventure should come to an end because of this.
It is time to sit down like ladies and gentlemen and calmly discuss these
various differences without bringing the legal profession into the equation.
Perhaps the board candidates could make calm and rational statements to the
membership on how they plan to accomplish this, so that the members can make
rational choices in the upcoming election. If this cannot be done then we
should probably all just sell our radio gear and find some other hobby that we
can pursue on our own without the need to form or govern any organization.
73, Dan Schultz N8FGV
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 00:03:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: 73 Bob W7LRD <w7lrd@???????.???>
To: Brad Smith <corlissbs@???.???>, Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] The Explanition Has Come
Message-ID: <1797769988.46571.1594451020960@???????.???????.???>
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I believe all concerned should go stand in the corner!!
73 Bob W7LRD
> On 07/10/2020 3:36 PM Brad Smith via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>
> The email, "AMSAT Leadership Explains 2018-2020 Legal Expenses," which I
assume all members received, made me think of the words of an oldie song
that has the words, "I wish that i could be the president, so I could show
you how your money's spent." In this case, it appears that the money was
spent to, at the advice of hired layers, keep two duly elected directors
from assuming their rightful role. So, the legal answer must have been to
segregate them, into a second class status. Is this really legal, and in
keeping with the bylaws of AMSAT? Why would the board do this? What are they
hiding and from whom? I may be just a dumb, retired, Midwestern engineer,
but even I can see thru this one. Talk about smoke and mirrors.
> I am going to assume that it was legal for the board to select a new
president, and that the membership has nothing to do with that. This whole
situation has the appearance of a game where people have been trying to find
a way to legally block other people from assuming their duties. Sounds like
Washington politics to me.
> Some members have resigned their membership over this. I am here to say
that I do not condone this form of reaction. In my humble opinion, (and some
of you know how humble I am) if you are on the birds, you should financially
support the organization. Exception would be if one couldn't afford it, of
course.
> Respectfully,Brad KC9UQR
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 02:47:40 -0500
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Leadership Explanation ...
Message-ID: <000001d65757$8e1c7810$aa556830$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I read the recent allegations by Directors Stoddard and Thompson of improper
behavior on the part of some AMSAT Officers and Directors with concern, but
also caution. Concern, because nothing remotely similar has occurred in the
30+ years I have been a Member and sometimes Board Member. Caution, because
the nature of the accusations and particularly the timing during a holiday
week in the AMSAT election cycle had all the hallmarks of a cynical
political hit. That is now the most plausible explanation. If they believed
the serious allegations to be true, it was irresponsible not to have brought
them to the attention of the Members before now. These accusations were
either carefully crafted for maximum political effect, or to put the most
charitable face on it, represent genuinely honest concern but egregious
errors in judgement by the accusers.
I call on Directors Thompson and Stoddard, in light of these unwarranted
accusations, to apologize publically to both those they have so grievously
misrepresented, and to the Members for the harm they have caused AMSAT. It
would be honorable to resign because of how badly they have broken trust
with the organization and its Members. Lacking that, at a minimum they
should pledge not to seek reelection. If as they claim they represent a
vision with wide support, surely they can find genuinely qualified
candidates to replace them without their baggage.
Hopefully AMSAT Members will consider carefully which current Board
candidates have either expressed support for these failed Directors, or been
endorsed by them. There are other, better, proven candidates.
Alan Biddle
WA4SCA
Past Board Member and Corporate Secretary
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 06:34:38 -0500
From: "Nick Pugh" <quadpugh@?????????.???>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Foolishness
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This is a hobby
Spending money on lawyer instead of satellite is dumb
My hope is you get on a Zoom call and put the fire out and take us to HEO
Nickk k5qxj
Cell 337 258 2527
Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School
Disagree I Learn
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